Comments on: Mindfulness Meditation for Adults & Teens with ADHD http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/ Brain Fitness and Cognitive Health news Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:58:08 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Tom http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-289952 Tom Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:36:15 +0000 http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/#comment-289952 Thank you for this article sheding light on the possibilities for meditation to help with ADHD. I'm just curious, why is the ADHD research on Neurofeedback criticized by Dr. Rabiner for 1. not having large enough participants 2. not using adequate controls 3. not offering randomized controlled trials? ...when this mindfulness study was likewise small, suggested no significant controls, and appearently was not randomized? But there's no mention of the need for better controls and bigger studies here. Here is his article on Neurofeedback: http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/01/25/how-strong-is-the-research-support-for-neurofeedback-treatment-of-children-with-adhd/ I'm not a supporter of Neurofeedback and actually do not believe that it's the solution to ADHD. I feel that effective meditation (though not necessarily mindfulness) is a much better route. I'm just interested in the different treatment of this study, compared to Dr. Rabiner's accessment of Neurofeedback, for which there are actually more peer-reviewed controlled studies than mindfulness for ADHD. It seems Dr. Rabiner was much more scrutinizing of the NF research than he is of research on mindfulness. I'm sure he has a good reason but am very curious. Is he a Buddhist? Is he into mindfulness himself and therefore more favorable to it? Thank you for this article sheding light on the possibilities for meditation to help with ADHD.

I’m just curious, why is the ADHD research on Neurofeedback criticized by Dr. Rabiner for
1. not having large enough participants
2. not using adequate controls
3. not offering randomized controlled trials?

…when this mindfulness study was likewise small, suggested no significant controls, and appearently was not randomized? But there’s no mention of the need for better controls and bigger studies here.

Here is his article on Neurofeedback:
http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/01/25/how-strong-is-the-research-support-for-neurofeedback-treatment-of-children-with-adhd/

I’m not a supporter of Neurofeedback and actually do not believe that it’s the solution to ADHD. I feel that effective meditation (though not necessarily mindfulness) is a much better route.

I’m just interested in the different treatment of this study, compared to Dr. Rabiner’s accessment of Neurofeedback, for which there are actually more peer-reviewed controlled studies than mindfulness for ADHD. It seems Dr. Rabiner was much more scrutinizing of the NF research than he is of research on mindfulness. I’m sure he has a good reason but am very curious. Is he a Buddhist? Is he into mindfulness himself and therefore more favorable to it?

]]> By: Alvaro Fernandez http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-183194 Alvaro Fernandez Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:50:02 +0000 http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/#comment-183194 Michael, I agree. Learning how to manage attention and regulate emotions would help many kids (and adults) be more productive and happy. Michael, I agree. Learning how to manage attention and regulate emotions would help many kids (and adults) be more productive and happy.

]]> By: Michael Ballard http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-183187 Michael Ballard Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:31:36 +0000 http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/#comment-183187 Thank you for this. Quite correctly this is not a panacea . However I've found that teaching and coaching children, youth and adults Mindfulness, Relaxation Response skills and meditation ( I know where does one start and the others end) helps them gain a sense of control over their inner world. A very valuable commodity these days. Thank you for this. Quite correctly this is not a panacea .
However I’ve found that teaching and coaching children, youth and adults Mindfulness, Relaxation Response skills and meditation ( I know where does one start and the others end) helps them gain a sense of control over their inner world. A very valuable commodity these days.

]]> By: Alvaro http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-168752 Alvaro Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:40:02 +0000 http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/#comment-168752 Elisha: I agree, nothing is a panacea. But it is very goodd news that we have tools at our disposal. Thank you for sharing your experience. Elisha: I agree, nothing is a panacea. But it is very goodd news that we have tools at our disposal.

Thank you for sharing your experience.

]]> By: Elisha Goldstein, Ph.D. http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-168433 Elisha Goldstein, Ph.D. Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:32:38 +0000 http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/#comment-168433 Hi Alvaro, It's important to first preface that mindfulness is not a panacea, but is a skillful way to approach many of our challenges in daily life. With that said, it's not for everyone at the time they come in for support. So, it hasn't been smooth all the time, however, more and more I am seeing a greater acceptance to actually practice. Follow through can be an issue, but then that is gris for the mill as we discuss what got in the way of practice which creates a growing awareness for the following experiences. A big part of this is noticing when you're becoming judgmental and being harsh on yourself for not being able to attend. This only serves to create more chaos in the brain and get in the way. With cultivating a non-judgmental awareness to our awareness :), we become more skillful at paying attention to the things we want to and living the lives we want. Elisha Goldstein, Ph.D. Hi Alvaro,
It’s important to first preface that mindfulness is not a panacea, but is a skillful way to approach many of our challenges in daily life. With that said, it’s not for everyone at the time they come in for support. So, it hasn’t been smooth all the time, however, more and more I am seeing a greater acceptance to actually practice. Follow through can be an issue, but then that is gris for the mill as we discuss what got in the way of practice which creates a growing awareness for the following experiences. A big part of this is noticing when you’re becoming judgmental and being harsh on yourself for not being able to attend. This only serves to create more chaos in the brain and get in the way. With cultivating a non-judgmental awareness to our awareness :) , we become more skillful at paying attention to the things we want to and living the lives we want.

Elisha Goldstein, Ph.D.

]]> By: Alvaro http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-168278 Alvaro Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:50:33 +0000 http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/#comment-168278 Kiersten, thank you for your visit. Nice to "meet" you. Nina: your brother may benefit from visiting a good doctor, and probably a neuropsychologist. No general advice is enough to help one very specific case. Elisha: thank you for sharing your experience. Have you found specific challenges working with people with attention deficits, or have you had a smooth experience engaging them with mindfulness? Kiersten, thank you for your visit. Nice to “meet” you.

Nina: your brother may benefit from visiting a good doctor, and probably a neuropsychologist. No general advice is enough to help one very specific case.

Elisha: thank you for sharing your experience. Have you found specific challenges working with people with attention deficits, or have you had a smooth experience engaging them with mindfulness?

]]> By: Elisha Goldstein, Ph.D. http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-168274 Elisha Goldstein, Ph.D. Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:22:07 +0000 http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/#comment-168274 I have also been working with teens and adults who have various challenges, one off them being ADHD. As a Mindfulness Teacher and Psychologist in West Los Angeles, I use these practices to help support them with a more nonjudgmental form of attention control. They usually come out with more than just the relief of ADHD symptoms, but also with an expanded sense of compassion for themselves and deeper connection with life. The reason is this goes beyond training the mind but can be considered a training for advanced liveing :). Thank you for this article. Elisha Goldstein, Ph.D. I have also been working with teens and adults who have various challenges, one off them being ADHD. As a Mindfulness Teacher and Psychologist in West Los Angeles, I use these practices to help support them with a more nonjudgmental form of attention control. They usually come out with more than just the relief of ADHD symptoms, but also with an expanded sense of compassion for themselves and deeper connection with life. The reason is this goes beyond training the mind but can be considered a training for advanced liveing :) . Thank you for this article.

Elisha Goldstein, Ph.D.

]]> By: Nina http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-168043 Nina Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:10:42 +0000 http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/#comment-168043 My younger brother who is 25 yrs is suffereing afrom ADHD he was diagnosed of the same at the age of 15 years and was treated on ritalin for 7 months. After which he was suffering from severe blinking of the eye after consuming the medicine. Which was the only side effect. Now he has a job but his concentration to the job (working as a front office executive in a 5 star hotel) is minimal. Is there any way I can get any help in getting him treated completely of this disorder? ------------------ Nina   My younger brother who is 25 yrs is suffereing afrom ADHD he was diagnosed of the same at the age of 15 years and was treated on ritalin for 7 months. After which he was suffering from severe blinking of the eye after consuming the medicine. Which was the only side effect. Now he has a job but his concentration to the job (working as a front office executive in a 5 star hotel) is minimal. Is there any way I can get any help in getting him treated completely of this disorder?
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Nina

 

]]> By: Kiersten Marek http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-162471 Kiersten Marek Mon, 26 May 2008 22:28:04 +0000 http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/#comment-162471 FYI -- I also posted this on my homepage site, Kmareka, and there were some good reader comments: http://kmareka.com/?p=1852 FYI — I also posted this on my homepage site, Kmareka, and there were some good reader comments:

http://kmareka.com/?p=1852

]]> By: Kiersten Marek http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-162200 Kiersten Marek Mon, 26 May 2008 01:57:14 +0000 http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2008/05/22/mindfulness-meditation-for-adults-teens-with-adhd/#comment-162200 Thanks for this summary and review -- I referenced your post on my private practice site, where I provide links to helpful information for families and the general public. Thanks for this summary and review — I referenced your post on my private practice site, where I provide links to helpful information for families and the general public.

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