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	<title>Comments on: 11 Neuroscientists Debunk a Common Myth about Brain Training</title>
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		<title>by: M. A. Greenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2007/09/06/11-neuroscience-quotes-that-will-change-your-views-on-brain-training/#comment-187994</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As commentors have all noted, myth debunking involves connecting the dots in scientific research and a willingness to  rethink applied areas like "aging" and "education."  

I'm particularly interested in speaking to those who note the speed and agility issue, especially in light of prescribing "exercise" as if that term speaks to all movement behaviors.

May I suggest: a cross-cultural age comparison with respect to cognitive and motor learning, e.g.,  looking at the neuro-somatic benefits of Chinese martial arts like Tai Chi, as fluid practices that increase perceptual awareness, tonify joints and augment one's sense of balance.

Connect the dots -- Fluid, locomotive movement patterns  engage the embodied brain in a different manner than the biomechanics of linear movement.

For more thoughts on that, feel free to write to me.  As well see the Blakeslee's book: The Body has a Mind of Its Own.

Dr. G./M. A.
The George Greenstein Institute for the Advancement of Somatic Arts and Science</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As commentors have all noted, myth debunking involves connecting the dots in scientific research and a willingness to  rethink applied areas like &quot;aging&quot; and &quot;education.&quot;  </p>
<p>I'm particularly interested in speaking to those who note the speed and agility issue, especially in light of prescribing &quot;exercise&quot; as if that term speaks to all movement behaviors.</p>
<p>May I suggest: a cross-cultural age comparison with respect to cognitive and motor learning, e.g.,  looking at the neuro-somatic benefits of Chinese martial arts like Tai Chi, as fluid practices that increase perceptual awareness, tonify joints and augment one's sense of balance.</p>
<p>Connect the dots --- Fluid, locomotive movement patterns  engage the embodied brain in a different manner than the biomechanics of linear movement.</p>
<p>For more thoughts on that, feel free to write to me.  As well see the Blakeslee's book: The Body has a Mind of Its Own.</p>
<p>Dr. G./M. A.<br />
The George Greenstein Institute for the Advancement of Somatic Arts and Science
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		<title>by: &#187; Brain Exercise and Fitness: September Monthly Digest&#160;&#160; &#171; Brain Fitness Revolution at SharpBrains &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</title>
		<link>http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2007/09/06/11-neuroscience-quotes-that-will-change-your-views-on-brain-training/#comment-113320</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] 11 Neuroscientists Debunk a Common Myth about Brain Training: summary of our 11 original interviews with leading neuroscientists and cognitive psychologists. [...]</description>
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		<title>by: Study Hacks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Around the Web: Can You Train Your Brain? (Answer: Yes)</title>
		<link>http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2007/09/06/11-neuroscience-quotes-that-will-change-your-views-on-brain-training/#comment-76316</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: apclik</title>
		<link>http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2007/09/06/11-neuroscience-quotes-that-will-change-your-views-on-brain-training/#comment-74217</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>They get better in some areas, like pattern recognition and emotional self-regulation. They get worse at others, like processing speed and problem-solving in novel situations. That right there is the key!</description>
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		<title>by: the new shelton wet/dry</title>
		<link>http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2007/09/06/11-neuroscience-quotes-that-will-change-your-views-on-brain-training/#comment-73394</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Neuroscientists have finally debunked that old thinking that our brains decline inexorably after a certain age and that there is little each of us can do to &#8220;exercise&#8221; and &#8220;train our brains&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Neuroscientists have finally debunked that old thinking that our brains decline inexorably after a certain age and that there is little each of us can do to &quot;exercise&quot; and &quot;train our brains&quot;. [...]
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 05:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: My del.icio.us bookmarks for September 7th through September 13th at Discovering my World&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Alvaro</title>
		<link>http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2007/09/06/11-neuroscience-quotes-that-will-change-your-views-on-brain-training/#comment-73203</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hello Johan,

Thanks for your comment. I enjoy your blog. 

Please note that none of those scientists is even talking about Nintendo.

Why don't you read the full notes of the interviews with Daniel Gopher, Torkel Klingberg, Bradley Gibson, they explain their own peer-reviewed research on specific programs, one for peripheral vision and attentional control for pilots, the other for working memory training for kids with attention deficits. The interviews include specific literature references. Please don't judge a field based on some quotes which, by design, intend to invite people to read the interview. And they don't present the full view.

The point is that the field is WAY broader than meets the eye.

Have you read books like Train Your Mind Change Your Brain, or The Brain That Changes Itself? Either of them would, I think, help change your mindset: we are not talking about about doing those exercises instead of talking with friends. (Maybe instead of (the average American watching 5 hours TV per day?). The key principles for mental stimulation are 1) novelty, 2) variety, 3) constant challenge. Computer-based exercises can be a very efficient vehicle for that-the same way you may choose to go to the gym is you want to train specific areas. You could also walk with friends, couldn't you?

Finally, please ask any neuropsychologist you may know what training they do with patients who have some form of brain injury. And why. 

Will prepare a follow-up with a summary of scientific literature, for a more scientific audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Johan,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. I enjoy your blog. </p>
<p>Please note that none of those scientists is even talking about Nintendo.</p>
<p>Why don't you read the full notes of the interviews with Daniel Gopher, Torkel Klingberg, Bradley Gibson, they explain their own peer-reviewed research on specific programs, one for peripheral vision and attentional control for pilots, the other for working memory training for kids with attention deficits. The interviews include specific literature references. Please don't judge a field based on some quotes which, by design, intend to invite people to read the interview. And they don't present the full view.</p>
<p>The point is that the field is WAY broader than meets the eye.</p>
<p>Have you read books like Train Your Mind Change Your Brain, or The Brain That Changes Itself? Either of them would, I think, help change your mindset: we are not talking about about doing those exercises instead of talking with friends. (Maybe instead of (the average American watching 5 hours TV per day?). The key principles for mental stimulation are 1) novelty, 2) variety, 3) constant challenge. Computer-based exercises can be a very efficient vehicle for that-the same way you may choose to go to the gym is you want to train specific areas. You could also walk with friends, couldn't you?</p>
<p>Finally, please ask any neuropsychologist you may know what training they do with patients who have some form of brain injury. And why. </p>
<p>Will prepare a follow-up with a summary of scientific literature, for a more scientific audience.
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		<title>by: Johan</title>
		<link>http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2007/09/06/11-neuroscience-quotes-that-will-change-your-views-on-brain-training/#comment-73025</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.sharpbrains.com/blog/2007/09/06/11-neuroscience-quotes-that-will-change-your-views-on-brain-training/#comment-73025</guid>
					<description>I think one of the big ironies of the "brain training" controversy is that the companies marketing brain training devices offer such laughable products. Really, my brain's capacity is supposed to be better improved by spending an hour tapping away at a tiny Nintendo DS screen, rather than just having a spirited conversation with friends, reading a book, writing a paper, solving soduku? One might imagine that any of these natural activities would be far more stimulating.

I'm not convinced by the evidence either, but that's another story. With a few noteworthy examples, few of the quotes above actually cite any supporting evidence that brain training works. It's easy to spin a tale on how/why brain training MIGHT work, but I think the first order of business ought to be establishing conclusively that it does in fact work.

And not just that, it ought to work better than the traditional "brain remedies" outlined above to offer any genuine value. After all, who wouldn't prefer reading a book or chatting with friends over slaving away at a brain training program?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the big ironies of the &quot;brain training&quot; controversy is that the companies marketing brain training devices offer such laughable products. Really, my brain's capacity is supposed to be better improved by spending an hour tapping away at a tiny Nintendo DS screen, rather than just having a spirited conversation with friends, reading a book, writing a paper, solving soduku? One might imagine that any of these natural activities would be far more stimulating.</p>
<p>I'm not convinced by the evidence either, but that's another story. With a few noteworthy examples, few of the quotes above actually cite any supporting evidence that brain training works. It's easy to spin a tale on how/why brain training MIGHT work, but I think the first order of business ought to be establishing conclusively that it does in fact work.</p>
<p>And not just that, it ought to work better than the traditional &quot;brain remedies&quot; outlined above to offer any genuine value. After all, who wouldn't prefer reading a book or chatting with friends over slaving away at a brain training program?
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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